Moderation Goes Missing on Herald Sun Website Comments
So a woman grabs a taxi after a few drinks in Richmond, and for her trouble is sexually assaulted by the driver. The Herald Sun report the story as is their business. Fair enough.
But the online site is opened up for comments. Umm, why exactly? What do we really need to comment on?
Anyway, the staff at Herald Sun are apparently all on the turps this afternoon cos they are letting any comments through.
This gem from PK of Altona.
pk of altona Posted at 3:16 PM Today - WHY DRINK THAT MUCH AT THE FIRST PLACE????????
But PK wasn't happy with his first comment, so he followed it up a minute later with another.
pk of altona Posted at 3:17 PM Today - Drunk women like her deserve this.
I wonder if PK would be happy if i was to knock on his door and kneecap him with a shotgun? Would he deserve that?
In the meantime, its a free for all on the Herald Sun comments section. So leave a few little choice remarks calling Rupert Murdoch a senile old man. I wonder if that would get through?
Its liberal versus conservative - not the ETS stupid
You do have to feel just a little bit sorry for Malcolm Turnbull. Granted, he did bring much of this on himself by declaring that it was an ETS policy or his leadership. But the nutjobs from the right have really used this to tear him down.
Lets be clear about this. Anyone who actually thinks this is about an Emissions Trading Scheme policy is missing the point. Its not.
I mean seriously, do we really think that the Liberals would deliberately flirt with self destruction over a very weak ETS policy? One that even John Howard said was remarkably similar to one that was presented by him at the 2007 election.
Yes, thats right folks. John Howard and the Liberal Party went to the 2007 election promising to bring in an emission trading scheme by 2012. Howard himself said that he was a convert to man made climate change.
There are some in the Liberals and certainly in the Nationals who are man made climate change sceptics. And there are some who are violently opposed to an ETS in any form. But they are generally the slightly or very mentally imbalanced members - like Wilson Tuckey or Barnaby Joyce.
No, the real reason that the ETS is being used as an argument is because of the battle for the future direction of the Liberal Party. Small l liberals versus conservative.
Lets look at some of the resignations. Tony Abbott, Nick Minchin, Sophie Mirabella, Eric Abetz and Tony Smith. Not forgetting the failed leadership tilt by staunch nutty Catholic Kevin Andrews. They are all hard right conservative.
This is a fight against the wets in the Liberal Party. And these conservatives will use any excuse to get their place back at the helm.
At least you have to give some credit to Turnbull. Back against the wall and he came out fighting. And a clever move too. He made the issue all about climate change and how important it is. Nice little strategy. If only the public had seen that Turnbull before today.
But i will say this. Its not a bad spectacle. In fact, id be surprised if this wasnt the most divided the Liberal Party has been in its entire history. And that includes the long running Howard/Peacock struggle in the 1980s. Way to go in making history fellas.
Polly Waffle Chocolate Bar to Be Discontinued After 62 years
Sure, its not the biggest issue in the world. Buts its important to a lot of people. Polly Waffle, the chocolate wafer bar filled with marshmallow has been discontinued due to poor sales.
Nestle has said that it costs them more to produce than they recoup in sales.
Its a sad end and i guess im partly responsible. I love polly waffles, but i have to admit that i havent had one in a number of years. Of course as soon as i heard the news, i checked at the superrmaket - all sold out. Damn it. But I'll keep looking.
We can only hope that public sentiment helps Nestle change their mind. Polly Waffle is an Australian icon.
Kevin Bloody Andrews to Lead the Liberal Party? Lego Sales Set to Rise
What are the chances that the leaders of the two biggest political parties in Australia would be called Kevin? Seems they are getting stronger. The member for Menzies and former Immigration Minister, Kevin Andrews has declared that he wants Malcolm Turnbull's job. So unhappy is he with the ETS, he's looking for a spill.
Ive not much time for Turnbull, but putting the Lego man in charge? You would have to be joking. This man has no personality. He is a hard line Catholic conservative. And he bungled the Mohammed Haneef affair - in a big way.
Making Andrews the leader would be a godsend to Labor. Do the Liberals not get it? You cant run a political campaign with someone who sounds like he just had a lobotomy. Its not going to work.
But thats ok. Ive enjoyed watching the Liberals implode. Its good sport.
How About a Big Dose of Harden the F&$k Up?
Its amazing what spin can do to a story. Kurt Fearnley, who crawled the Kokoda Track recently, was "forced" to crawl through Brisbane airport to his plane after Jetstar took his wheelchair away. Forced was he?
No. He was told at check in that he would have to book in his wheelchair to be stowed as luggage. He was then offered another wheelchair in which to get to his aircraft. But that wasn't good enough. He wanted his own wheelchair. He didn't want to travel or be pushed in another wheelchair to the terminal.
A couple of key points. Apparently, Kurt Fearnley is a regular user of Jetstar. And given that this is standard Jeststar policy, its hard to believe that it hasn't happened to him before. So why ark up now?
This is the policy from Jetstar - and whether you agree with it or not, its not new, and is similar to many airlines around the world. Yes, i checked.
Jetstar provides customers with a wheelchair in which to transfer at check-in. Jetstar customer service staff will assist in the transfer into the wheelchair, using Jetstar's approved transfer method of slide boards and slide cloths.
If required, a Jetstar customer service staff member will then escort a customer who requires wheelchair assistance from check-in through security to their boarding gate. If the customer is travelling with a carer/companion who is willing to escort the customer, a Jetstar customer service staff member will organise to meet the customer(s) at the boarding gate.
Baggage: The customer's wheelchair must be checked-in as baggage.
Many other airlines allow you to use your own wheelchair until the terminal, and at boarding you are transferred to another one to get onto the aircraft. Your own wheelchair is then taken to the baggage hold and you are reunited with it at the terminal of your destination.
So for a guy who was able to crawl much of the Kokoda Track, surely a does of harden the F*%k up is in order? If you dont like the airline policy, hell man, fly a different airline. Qantas and Virgin Blue allow you to take your own wheelchair direct to the terminal gate.
His efforts on Kokoda were something i wouldn't do. But did i note from the story i watched on 7's Sunday Night of his Kokoda Journey that he had to be carried to camp by porters when he got tired? But because he is disabled, I'm probably not allowed to make that observation.
White Trash Skanky Ho Michelle Chantelois Sells her Story to New Idea too
First of all she sold her story to Seven for a couple of hundred thousand dollars.
Michelle Chantelois cheated on her husband with a single guy and yet she gets paid to tell all. And we don't know how much she got for New Idea. Or was it all part of the same deal?
Its a strange world. When two consenting adults engage in an intimate relationship, what exactly is the crime? Even if any of these things did occur, where did he do anything wrong, except perhaps in Parliament?
I'm scratching my head trying to work out what the frick all the commotion and outrage is about. I'm outraged that such a story has received such prominence.
Can i say that i have a personal belief that Michelle and her former husband Rick are both slightly mentally imbalanced. In other words, i think they are a little bit crazy and likely to be on medication. Rick is apparently a serial threat letter writer to Rann. Need i say more?
Make your own mind up on Chantelois. Is she the biggest skank of 2009?
As an aside, in this whole story from Seven i am disappointed. I thought Seven's chief political correspondent Mark Riley had more integrity. But it seems he is little different to his colleagues across at tabloid Today Tonight. Because this is one of the biggest pieces of chequebook journalism Australia has ever seen.
So Mark Riley, i always thought you were witty and funny, with good insight. You have turned into a tabloid journo, and for that, I'm sorry for you. I hope living without integrity is a good experience.
Dirty Linen Interview on Seven Sunday Night - Barmaid Michelle Chantelois to Allege Affair with Premier Mike Rann
Here we go again. Another paid for comment story. What is it with people who think they can make a quick buck by selling their story to the highest bidder? Even if it isn't true.
I don't know the full facts of this case. But i don't need to. People who choose to sell intimate stories to the media are scum of the earth. So yes, Michelle Chantelois, whether your story is true or not, you are filthy scum. Plain and simple.
How much was Michelle Chantelois paid by 7's Sunday Night program to air all her so called dirty laundry? It hasn't been revealed. But over at Vexnews, the suggestion has been made that it could be as high as $200,000. Wowsers.
A couple of months back, Chantelois' ex husband Richard Wayne Phillips assaulted Premier Rann at a function. He was stopped just in time from grabbing a knife, perhaps in an effort to stab Rann. This is the kind of people we are dealing with here - just white trash filth.
Rann is said to deny the allegations of an affair or an intimate relationship with Chantelois. But he is waiting to see the interview she has given before releasing a statement.
Ireland Versus France World Cup Qualifier Video - Thierry Henry's Hand of God Handball Goal Assist - Corrupt and Cheating Referee Martin Hansson?
Corruption and cheating in World Cup soccer? Predetermined results courtesy of FIFA? Never!! Sure, Ireland were never going to bring as much money into the sport if they qualified ahead of France, but surely these considerations don't play a part. Or do they?
Thierry Henry openly admits that he touched the ball with his hand...twice, before passing it to William Gallas who scored a goal to equalize against Ireland. The draw ensured that France would proceed to the World Cup and Ireland would not.
The referee and the linesman both seemed to ignore the blatant handball. They ignored the obvious instant protestations by the Ireland defenders and goalie. They just got on with the job of ensuring that France had every chance to go through to the World Cup.
Have a look at the video. If you think this ain't corruption, check out the offside by a couple of French players just before Henry controls the ball with his hand. I'm not going to say that Henry is a cheat. At least he was honest afterwards. But it gives me a reason not to support the French this time. Hell, id even prefer that Italy won again - and that's saying something.
18 and a Half Years Jail for Violent Baseball Bat Thug Alfer Azzopardi
At last a fairly decent sentence for violent thugs. I will note that Justice Joe Gullaci is on record calling for tougher sentencing. But it does make you wonder if the defendants in high profile cases such as the bashing on Mukesh Haikerwal are subject to tougher sentences. Not that im arguing against it. Id just like some consistency. It shouldnt matter who the victim is.
As bad as the crime against Dr Haikerwal was, is it any different to the bashing of an innocent kid at a train station in Sunshine earlier this year? The kid was knocked unconscious, kicked on the ground and may have suffered brain damage. The sentence for those tossers? 13 months, 9 months and 7 months for each of the three thugs.
Compare that to the sentences handed down to the bashers of Haikerwal. 18 and a half years, 16 and a half years and nine years nine months.
Just goes to show that when the media pays attention, the DPP call for tougher sentences and judges are inclined to throw the book at you.
Remember that when you want to bash someone next time. Choose someone without a profile and you could just get away with a slap on the wrist. Welcome to justice in Australia.
From The Age:
Three Melbourne men who bashed former Australian Medical Association boss Mukesh Haikerwal unconscious during an armed robbery have received long jail sentences.
Dr Haikerwal was walking through a park in the bayside suburb of Williamstown on September 27 last year when he was set upon and bashed by the men.
Victorian County Court Judge Joe Gullaci today jailed Alfer Azzopardi, 20, of Coolaroo, who delivered the most serious blow to the doctor with a baseball bat, for 18-and-a-half years with a minimum of 13-and-a-half years.
Co-accused Michael Baltatzis, 20, of Glenroy, who together with Azzopardi took part in 23 armed robberies over a two-month period, was jailed for 16-and-a-half years and must serve 10-and-a-half years before being eligible for parole.
A third man, Sean Gabriel, 20, of Hoppers Crossing, was jailed for nine years and nine months with a minimum of six years.
Family First Senator Claims he Was Abused by a Scout Leader as a Child
On the day that Kevin Rudd and Malcom Turnbull will apologise to children who suffered abuse in church and state run institutions, Senator Fielding has his own admission. He was abused for many years by a scoutmaster when he was a child.
"I was sexually abused as a child by a scoutmaster for years. I have very strong emotions and feelings on this issue."
I'm not suggesting for a moment that Fielding isn't telling the truth on this issue. Who would make up such a story? Anyway, you aren't allowed to officially question someone's story when they say they were abused.
Needless to say that this is the same guy who claimed he suffered a learning disability as a child when people started calling him stupid.
So the media are almost duty bound now to seek out the very same scoutmaster who allegedly committed this abuse. That's what the media do. They will find a version of the truth.
And of course there will be responses from Scouts Australia, the Police and Fielding family members and friends who may or may not have witnessed the alleged abuse.
Lets just see how this whole issue pans out.
Joke of the Day
NINE WORDS AND PHRASES WOMEN USE
(1) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are right and you need to shut up.
(2) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.
(3) Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something, and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing usually end in fine.
(4) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don't Do It!
(5) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you about nothing. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of nothing.)
(6) That's Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women can make to a man. That's okay means she wants to think long and hard before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.
(7) Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just say you're welcome. (I want to add in a clause here - This is true, unless she says 'Thanks a lot' - that is PURE sarcasm and she is not thanking you at all. DO NOT say 'you're welcome'. that will bring on a 'whatever').
(8) Whatever: Is a woman's way of saying @#$* YOU!
(9) Don't worry about it, I got it: Another dangerous statement, meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several times, but is now doing it herself. This will later result in a man asking 'What's wrong?' For the woman's response refer to # 3.
How to Experience Awful Pain at the Petrol Bowser on Shopper Docket Day
Try to fill up on a Wednesday afternoon. Now i will admit that I'm usually not so stupid as to join the queues of drivers trying to get petrol just after work on a Wednesday immediately before the weekly discounting cycle ends. It is a nightmare and it really isn't worth the time.
Because seriously, how much is your time worth? I once saw a queue or cars stretching out on to Springvale Road at 10.30pm on a Wednesday night. They were blocking the entire left lane. The wait to get to the pump must have been at least 20mins.
Right across the road at a non discount shopper docket station the bowsers were empty. The saving by using your docket as opposed to paying retail across the road? 2cents a litre. And if you didn't have a shopper docket, petrol was cheaper elsewhere.
In other words, for the average motorist who puts in say 50 litres, their saving was a measly $1. Their 20 minutes extra in their car was worth just $1. Less of course if they chose to let their car sit in idle for the entire wait. Yes, the idiots do that. Would you work for $3 an hour? No? Then why is it logical to waste your precious leisure time for the same?
But back to my experience. So I'm close to empty and i rock up to the only station available. A Safeway/Woolworths Caltex. I'm lucky, i get to drive in pretty much straight away. Ive struck the jackpot. Or have i?
Ahead of me in his Nissan Maxima was an old guy. He got there before me. In fact he could have been there all day as far as i know. Because when i got out to fill up, he was still sitting in the drivers seat.
Nobody will ever know what he was doing in there, because he didn't get out to fill up until i was almost done. But before he could start, he decided to strike up a mini conversation with the other old guy on the other side of the pump. Topic? The weather. Specifically, the heat. Genius really, talk about how awful the heat is while wasting time outside in it.
Anyways, no matter. He was blocking my exit, but there was another way out despite cars queuing up behind me. I may be able to sneak past him when the vacant Mazda people mover next to me drove off. Presumably, its occupant was inside waiting to pay.
So i joined the queue of drivers waiting to pay for their petrol and those that had just popped in to get their daily shopping supplies. Head of the queue was some guy with tattoos. Youngish bloke. Seemed OK. That was until he had all his items scanned then decided he wanted one more. Off he trudged to find it while the rest of us waited. No dramas fella.
In the background the whole time i waited to pay was the whining of a mother and her child as they decided which drink and ice cream they wanted. It went on. And on. Enough already, just give the kid an icy pole and stop annoying the rest of us with your useless gibberish.
I pay and finally escape. And hop back into my car only to see the old guy still filling up. Perhaps the Maxima has the largest tank of any car on the market? Alas, next to me the Mazda is still there...vacant. Ive nowhere to go.
I wait. And i wait some more. The queue behind me gets longer. Its 32 degrees, and I'm conscious of not letting my car sit in idle right next to a pump. No air conditioning. Brilliant.
And then they come. The mother and her child. Yes, while people waited, they were inside shopping. A mother trying to satisfy the little squirt with an ice cream. No concern for anyone who was waiting outside.
So she and the kid hop into their people mover which is kind of odd given there is only one kid. But damn it to hell, she has driven into the bowser the wrong way. So she drives forward a bit, then back. Then forward some more. Then back a bit. I'm not sure where the hell she thinks she is going. Nowhere actually cos cars are ahead of her, and she hasnt the skill to reverse her way out. Karma.
But i do notice one thing on her windscreen. A disabled parking sticker. I know that some people have disabilities that we cant see. But which of them allows you to walk normally and utilise a large 4WD type people mover? Needless to say that i think they must be handing out disabled passes for minor retardation.
My old guy came back. Finally. He hops into his car. Does he move? Does he what! Maybe its a fear of doing anything too quickly. The slower you move, the slower you will go to the grave. I'm not sure on the logic. But for all his faults, at least he drove to the bowser the right way and didn't waste time in the shop. Which is more than i can say for Mazda lady and her sprocket who were stuck tightly with nowhere to go.
It was hot. And it was a Wednesday afternoon at a petrol station. But its also representative of many people's completely self centred, insular minds. They pay no attention to what goes on around them, nor would they care if they did notice. Its all about them.
The lesson being, if you see this lady in her blue Mazda with the disabled sticker, give her a bitch slap - a really hard one. Whack one on the kid too. No judge in his right mind would give you a custodial sentence for that. Not in this state anyway.
Grumpy People Are Smarter
Need I say More? Its nice to be vindicated. Sure, i dont have a lot of time for "experts" or studies into pointless things. But im happy to agree with this one. Maybe happy isnt the right word. Anyways. Read on. Adopt a positive attitude at your own risk.
This from Reuters:
Bad moods can actually be good for you, with an Australian study finding that being sad make people less gullible, improves their ability to judge others and also boosts memory.
The study, authored by psychology professor Joseph Forgas at the University of New South Wales, showed that people in a negative mood were more critical of, and paid more attention to, their surroundings than happier people, who were more likely to believe anything they were told.
"Whereas positive mood seems to promote creativity, flexibility, cooperation, and reliance on mental shortcuts, negative moods trigger more attentive, careful thinking paying greater attention to the external world," Prof Forgas wrote.
"Our research suggests that sadness ... promotes information processing strategies best suited to dealing with more demanding situations."
For the study, Prof Forgas and his team conducted several experiments that started with inducing happy or sad moods in their subjects through watching films and recalling positive or negative events.
In one of the experiments, happy and sad participants were asked to judge the truth of urban myths and rumours and found that people in a negative mood were less likely to believe these statements.
People in a bad mood were also less likely to make snap decisions based on racial or religious prejudices and they were less likely to make mistakes when asked to recall an event that they witnessed.
The study also found that sad people were better at stating their case through written arguments, which Prof Forgas said showed that a "mildly negative mood may actually promote a more concrete, accommodative and ultimately more successful communication style".
"Positive mood is not universally desirable: people in negative mood are less prone to judgmental errors, are more resistant to eyewitness distortions and are better at producing high-quality, effective persuasive messages," Prof Forgas wrote.
The study was published in the November/December edition of the Australasian Science journal
Midgets in the Melbourne Cup
In the latest outrage to beset Australia, Midgets were used during the Melbourne Cup parade. They were given pride of place during the walk down Swanston Street.
Check them out about 30 seconds into this video.
Hang on...hang on. They are just kids. No need to get outraged. Dont worry about contacting the little people's association for comment. My mistake.
Then again, what does using these kids say about our jockeys? That they are small and like children? Damn it. Im outraged again.
Emirates Sponsorship - Marketing Goes Mad at 2009 Melbourne Cup
I understand that sponsorship is important for sporting events. But sometimes, it goes just that little bit too far. I'm sure Emirates is a good airline. When they learn how to take off properly that is. But their marketing team needs to find just a slight bit of control if their performance at the 2009 Melbourne Cup is representative of their standard mode of operation.
Winning trainer Mark Kavanagh was celebrating the win of his horse Shocking as it passed the finishing post. He was jumping up and down and being hugged by various members of his team.
Just seconds had passed since the win, but into the picture steamed a very serious looking marketing woman, carrying her bag of red Emirates baseball caps. This was not some red uniformed Emirates hostess. No, this was a dressed to the nines senior marketing executive. Or so it seemed.
It didn't take long for her to accost Mark Kavanagh with one of those caps. Like i said, only seconds had passed since the win. But this marketing exec tried her darnedest to get one of those red caps onto Kavanagh's head as soon as possible. It was almost as if she was fighting with him to get it on, as kids might do.
I can understand the reasoning behind it - you need to promote your brand. But the determination that she showed at the least opportune moment was just a terribly bad look. Sorry lady. I know what you were trying to do. But zero points for Emirates on that one. Wait a little while next time. There is plenty of time for mass media coverage. Kavanagh wore the cap for most of the interviews for the rest of the day.
Just a couple of other observations. I'm sure that winning the Melbourne Cup would be a mind blowing event. And having a huge celebration would be in order. But for the wife of the winning owner, who decided to wave to everyone on stage while her husband was giving a speech...please. If you do happen to get there again, show some decorum. The whole world is watching. You looked like a goose.
And to those people who give their acceptance speeches, surely it isn't hard to acknowledge the important people in the crowd. Lets face it, the Governor General was there. Its pretty simple really. Even if you just say, distinguished guests, members of the VRC and ladies and gentleman. Same thing happens every year.
Finally. Kevin Rudd. He picked the winner. But does he need to look like John Howard celebrating a win of the Wallabies? We all know K Rudd isn't ocker. I'm getting a bit jack of the fakeness. And of all his appointments of former Liberals like Costello, but that's another matter.
ASX Listing Code MYR - Myer Float Listing Opening Share Price
I recently voiced my opinion on the share float of Myer, suggesting that the price offered was way too high. As i said at the time, "So why is Myer such a bad choice for a long term investment? In one simple word, Myer is overpriced."
It seems that the market agrees. The price for Myer shares purchased as part of the plan was $4.10. The initial opening price on the stock exchange was $3.88.
I will admit that when i wrote that piece, i expected the retail offer to value the shares at the upper end of the price range of between $3.90 and $4.90. And i also expected the shares to list at a premium.
But since then, the market has taken a bit of a nose dive. And the more the institutions looked at the Myer offer, the less they liked.
Then of course, the listing for Myer comes on the day after the Dow Jones had its largest fall for months. Yes, the jitters have arrived on the market.
That's not bad news for the private equity firms TPG and Blum Caiptal. They have made a killing on their sale of Myer, as have the Myer family. Good for them.
Not so good for the mums and dads out there who bought into Myer as a long term investment. Sorry folks, this one's a stinker. Just my opinion of course.
Media Go Ballistic on Allegations of "Footballers" Pack Rape at Phillip Island
I really didn't want to buy into this issue. But the salivating excitement by the media has been just too much for me to sit by and say nothing.
I will say from the outset that this whole matter revolves around some allegations against a number of young men. Yes, they are just that. Allegations. Charges do not make someone guilty of a crime.
The case against Theo Theophonous recently confirmed that. Despite The Age running a vicious and unfounded campaign against the Victorian Minister, he was proved innocent in a case which should have never gone to committal.
So i wish the guys at the centre of this case the best of luck in getting a fair trial. With their names and faces plastered all over TV and print media outlets, they have almost been convicted without having the opportunity to present a defence.
This story has media legs because of its supposed footy connection. Were some of the accused footballers at Montmorency? Yes indeed they were. But were they on an end of season trip, sponsored by the footy club? No they were not. It just so happens that SOME of them played footy.
Yet somehow, this whole issue has become a story about footy players behaving badly. And somehow, footballers apparently don't have any respect for women. It has drawn out all the usual suspects to write their op ed pieces for the dailys, complaining about the supposedly appalling football culture.
I'm sorry you tossers, but i also played footy. I'm pretty good at observing behaviour of people. And i never saw what you keep talking about. Sure, there were some bad eggs - just as there are at any sporting club, workplace or community group. But there was no organised culture of disrespect against anyone.
I suppose i shouldn't be too surprised about inner city types passing judgement on things which they know nothing about. Its that commentary which keeps the opinion pages of our daily newspapers filled.
The most obvious thing about this whole story is the lack of consistency in the media reporting. Ive read numerous reports and i still cant get to the bottom of it. Do the media just make this stuff up or act on hearsay when they haven't got the full story? It seems so.
There could have been as many as thirty people at the house on Phillip Island when two women were allegedly pack raped. As few as six or as many as sixteen were members of the Montmorency football club. Just depends on which story you read.
I'm reluctant to pass judgement in this whole matter. I have a hunch that there is a whole lot more information to come out before this is settled. I will note that the men will be pleading not guilty. They will claim that any activity that occurred on the night in question was consensual.
This is what i have learned about the story so far. This is media reporting again, so god forbid if it is accurate.
Some men who had rented a house at Phillip Island went to a pub and met 2 girls. They invited the girls back to their house.
The girls allegedly were lured to separate upstairs rooms where they were allegedly sexually assaulted and prevented from leaving the room.
The two girls remained in the house until morning and apparently left of their own accord.
The two girls in question apparently reported the issue to police four days after the alleged crime took place.
The two girls identified the men allegedly involved in the incident, supposedly at pub the night after. This was or was not the same pub that they met the men.
Both of the girls allege that sexual assault occurred, but only one is willing to press charges. The other is willing to be a witness.
Anybody have any further information they have gleaned from the media or other statements?
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